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August 23, 2005

An Open Thread After a Closed One

Some people aren't too happy that I shut down the comments on the previous post by Austin Bay, Roll Forward: Why the Bush White House Needs the Press to Win the Big One. But in blogging, life goes on. So here's an open thread to talk about it. Or what Austin said.

Some people (like the up and coming neo-neocon) aren’t too happy that I shut down the comments on the previous post, which was by guest writer Austin Bay: Roll Forward: Why the Bush White House Needs the Press to Win the Big One.

(See other reactions by Neuro-conservative, Don’t Press, Don’t Think, and Norma, “what a hypocrite.”)

But a weblog’s life goes on. So here’s an open thread to talk about it. Or what Austin Bay (“Weekly Standard writer, NPR commentator, Iraq War vet, Colonel in the Army Reserve, Republican, conservative, blogger with a lit PhD…”) said:

“The Bush Administration must revitalize its public diplomacy, and that means ‘rolling forward’ and establishing a new, more mature relationship with the press…But the NY-DC-LA axis must also ‘roll forward.’ Itís in their institutional interest as well as simple survival.”

And here’s my suggestion to participants in the previous thread. The bias discourse, however justified you may find it, is making many of you dumber by the day. You should be concentrating on getting more of your people into the mainstream media, and making great journalists out of them. And you should be discussing the bias the press should, in your considered view, have.

Instead you have driven yourself into a logic loop. Deep down, you don’t believe in an objective press. Deep down you don’t believe our press is objective.

Meanwhile, Dean Esmay has something to say about the big comment shut down at PressThink (after 168 posts):

The criticism was withering and went on for days, and he finally said “screw this” and shut off the firehose. Maybe he was a little snippy about it.

Does it need to be analyzed further than that? I mean, Jay’s just this guy, you know?

So talk to him. Thanks to Dean for his words, too.

I think my point in the previous post could have been better put: say what you will about the performance of the press, Austin Bay is talking about what we need the big institutional press to do. Let’s make sure to have a discussion about that. If you’re suggestion is: we need the big, institutional press to die, fine. Maybe in the end it will.

It’s an open question. This is an open thread.



A PressThink sampler on the matter of “media bias.”


Posted by Jay Rosen at August 23, 2005 10:57 PM